umm i used the jungle ick remover in a septrate container and it turnd the water blu i read the box and it said nothing about the color it just said may stain silicon in tank
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That's normal, I believe it's the malchite green in there that causes that.
idk much about fish. take it to a fish expert.
it usually doesnt, all blue solutions may stain but it is a small discoloration, and barely noticeable.
it is the allantoin if the tank buddy capsule that does it. It is perfectly normal.
I used it recently, and yes it does turn the water completely blue, but doesn't have any affect on your tank
When you're done with the treatment, with no carbon cartridge in the treating time, you do a 50% partial waterchange and your water will clear up again after about 3-5 days depending on how big your tank is, don't forget to put a new carbon cartridge back into your filter once you're done
Hope that helps
good luck
EB
Saturday, May 22, 2010
Arwana fish...?
wich one consider petter theShelookRED and TreasuREDragon.
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First, what do you mean petter? You are not going to get an Arowana, and it is spelled Arowana, not Arwana to let you pet it.
If this is a typo, and you mean prettier, there is no species of shelookred or treasurered in Arowanas. If you could please provide a link to prove this I'll be glad to give you my opinion.
We are fighting dreamers!
mhmmhmmhmhmmhmhmhm
TreasuREDragon
2N!$H
Answers:
First, what do you mean petter? You are not going to get an Arowana, and it is spelled Arowana, not Arwana to let you pet it.
If this is a typo, and you mean prettier, there is no species of shelookred or treasurered in Arowanas. If you could please provide a link to prove this I'll be glad to give you my opinion.
We are fighting dreamers!
mhmmhmmhmhmmhmhmhm
TreasuREDragon
2N!$H
Artificial Coral and other ornaments for fish tank?
Hello people, I am from the UK and looking for artificial coral ornaments for my tank. I am looking for realistic, good quality, natural safe ornaments. I would like to find something that is rubbery, and will move with the water current would anyone know of a UK website so I can use mail order? I hope to hear soon, many thanks, X
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not in the UK i don't,
sorry
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not in the UK i don't,
sorry
Arowana..?
http://www.shelookred.com/..if i want to buy do u think it good becouse it will coast about 700$ and it will be only 12 to 15 cm
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Ty MM,
That's not a species, shelookred, that's a site name. What is displayed there is a Super Red Arowana. If you live in the USA, you cannot import this fish. At $700.00, you are paying for a very low end quality fish as well. The Super Red Arowana's at a high end quality, provided you live in a country you can legally import you, would be about $1200-$1500 for a A+ quality one. B and C quality Arowana would be going for $700.00. The only other color of Asian Arowana that ranks higher in price is the Platinum and occaisonally the Xback Red Tailed Golden aka RTG's.
Yes they are a beautiful fish, I have the money to get one, I just live in the USA and you'll never get one in here legally. Their was legislation in process I was informed by an eBay seller, darmalisdragonfish.com owned by Blake Baron that said the first expected importable Asian Arowana's would be the Red Tailed versions, not sure about the cross backs though. For now, if you live in the USA, you can only dream like I do. Sorry.
JV
PS. The Blood Red's and Chili Red's are just as good as super reds IMO and usually a lesser price
FOLLOW UP: There is something I do want to clairfy for the google monsters looking up prices. When you see the Arowana's going for $5000.00 and $7500.00 those prices are for juvenlie/adult Super Reds. At 12 to 15 cm, you are still talking about a young/baby one and they do not command the same market value as a bigger grown adult. Please keep this in mind.
It's not going to happen legally no matter what someone who is sadly misinformed tells you. It's a simple no brainer and anyone with common sense or has the ability to think beyond that of a child knows that you must get one from a CITES farm and microchipping occurs. I just didn't think something as simple as that needed to be explained, however, what you do need to know, since you are in China, I'm glad you emailed me direct so you can get accurate helpful information.
Patrick, you don't need a 900 gallon tank to keep an Arowana, thats just ludicrous. Even a 180 or 210 for Arowana is just fine. Extra turning space is nice to have, but they can still thrive in set ups at 180 for over 15 years.
Your link ran together with your next word and didn't word. Here's the link for all answers that follow me
http://www.shelookred.com/
I suggest you wait for JonV's answer. He's very knowledgable on arowana.
MM
your link dosnt work, but i followed MMs.
Anyway, that is a red asain arowana, and if you live in he USA it will be hard to get in. legally...
They must be mircochiped and you must recieve the number when you get the fish. Also to get them legally in the usa u must get them from a CITIES approved arowana farm.
So 700 USD is by far to less to come from a CITIES farm, and it looks like that is for people in the overseas market. As there laws about this fish are different.
To find a good red asain it will run you into the thousands of dollar range.
Even small ones are over 5000.
if your in the usa, you really should look into other species, like jardini arowanas.
These are the nicest Arrowana in the world. $700 for a juvenile is cheap. I hope you plan on getting at least a tank that's 10'L x 4'D x 3'H 900 gallons or hopefully larger in the next couple of years. They were selling lower quality ones in Canada in the low $2,000 range. I'm not sure where you're located though getting this into the US will be diffilcult due to CITES and that $700 may just be thrown out. If the fish has a chip and all of the documentation you have a chance though spend a lot of time with customs to make sure everything is ok and they will allow this fish's importation.
Answers:
Ty MM,
That's not a species, shelookred, that's a site name. What is displayed there is a Super Red Arowana. If you live in the USA, you cannot import this fish. At $700.00, you are paying for a very low end quality fish as well. The Super Red Arowana's at a high end quality, provided you live in a country you can legally import you, would be about $1200-$1500 for a A+ quality one. B and C quality Arowana would be going for $700.00. The only other color of Asian Arowana that ranks higher in price is the Platinum and occaisonally the Xback Red Tailed Golden aka RTG's.
Yes they are a beautiful fish, I have the money to get one, I just live in the USA and you'll never get one in here legally. Their was legislation in process I was informed by an eBay seller, darmalisdragonfish.com owned by Blake Baron that said the first expected importable Asian Arowana's would be the Red Tailed versions, not sure about the cross backs though. For now, if you live in the USA, you can only dream like I do. Sorry.
JV
PS. The Blood Red's and Chili Red's are just as good as super reds IMO and usually a lesser price
FOLLOW UP: There is something I do want to clairfy for the google monsters looking up prices. When you see the Arowana's going for $5000.00 and $7500.00 those prices are for juvenlie/adult Super Reds. At 12 to 15 cm, you are still talking about a young/baby one and they do not command the same market value as a bigger grown adult. Please keep this in mind.
It's not going to happen legally no matter what someone who is sadly misinformed tells you. It's a simple no brainer and anyone with common sense or has the ability to think beyond that of a child knows that you must get one from a CITES farm and microchipping occurs. I just didn't think something as simple as that needed to be explained, however, what you do need to know, since you are in China, I'm glad you emailed me direct so you can get accurate helpful information.
Patrick, you don't need a 900 gallon tank to keep an Arowana, thats just ludicrous. Even a 180 or 210 for Arowana is just fine. Extra turning space is nice to have, but they can still thrive in set ups at 180 for over 15 years.
Your link ran together with your next word and didn't word. Here's the link for all answers that follow me
http://www.shelookred.com/
I suggest you wait for JonV's answer. He's very knowledgable on arowana.
MM
your link dosnt work, but i followed MMs.
Anyway, that is a red asain arowana, and if you live in he USA it will be hard to get in. legally...
They must be mircochiped and you must recieve the number when you get the fish. Also to get them legally in the usa u must get them from a CITIES approved arowana farm.
So 700 USD is by far to less to come from a CITIES farm, and it looks like that is for people in the overseas market. As there laws about this fish are different.
To find a good red asain it will run you into the thousands of dollar range.
Even small ones are over 5000.
if your in the usa, you really should look into other species, like jardini arowanas.
These are the nicest Arrowana in the world. $700 for a juvenile is cheap. I hope you plan on getting at least a tank that's 10'L x 4'D x 3'H 900 gallons or hopefully larger in the next couple of years. They were selling lower quality ones in Canada in the low $2,000 range. I'm not sure where you're located though getting this into the US will be diffilcult due to CITES and that $700 may just be thrown out. If the fish has a chip and all of the documentation you have a chance though spend a lot of time with customs to make sure everything is ok and they will allow this fish's importation.
AROWANA....jon v?
voilet fusion super red arowana 1800us$---spoon head voilet super red arowana 2200us$ -- chilli red arowana 700us$ ---red tail gold arowana250us$ .wich should i chose and the prisecs are to mouch diffrant and do u think they r really difrant like this..
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Hey ZOZ, just got back in. I can't say I, personally am much impressed with the Violet super reds. To be honest, I think a more realistic name for it should be Malay Blue xback Red is what they more look like. Chilli Red at $700.00 is a good price I think. I'm going to link you some sites I think give an accurate picture of what you can expect to pay. RTG's are popular in Asia for sure, I personally prefer the Blood Reds or Chili's myself, but if you really like it, it sounds like you're paying for a younger Arowana, which is ideal.
By getting a younger Arowana, you can watch them grow and watch thier colors shift and brighten as they age. Difference in prices are basically two major factors. 1. is the grade of the fish, and 2. is the location you buy them from. BC is correct in the point that if you don't have your Arowana microchipped, then you run a risk of someone finding out your Arwoana was taken from the wild, and you could face signifcant legal action because of that. Your safe bet is to get one from one of the farms that grow, raise and microchip them. You pay slightly more, but the confidence level that you are getting a fish that you are paying for is better. There have been reports of RTG's being dyed to simulate a Blood or Super Red, thus the person paying a higher price for a lesser quality fish. If you buy right from a reputable farm, you don't have to worry about this, and you'll get documents certifying the bloodline and microchip of your Arowana.
The way I see it is like this. If you are going to pay this kind of money for a great fish like this, you might as well take the time to buy it from a reputable seller. You protect yourself, and are more likely to get the actual fish you are paying for. If you buy from someone off the streets, you have no guarentee's.
Here's some links to read over. I'm sorry I didn't get back to your email requests sooner, I was away this weekend for some time. Just getting back in now. It's good to know I have your trust and that you know the difference between an accurate answer and an answer that is somewhat questionable and full of bs.
As always you may email me anytime you need, and if you need more extensive help, you can get it at fishless cycling.com or just use the link on my profile.
JV
are they legal? and chipped?
if so. i live spoon heads, for what like 400 usd more i would go with a spoon head.
But also green and black Cross backs are very nice, but if you like the red coloration. go reds.
But those prices make me wonder, i dont think that they are legal from a CITES approved farm.
Edit: well im sorry that imnot jon, but that doesnt mean that hes the only one who knows about arowanas.
Be carful in the future asking questions on here, because you're not allowed to have personell conversations on here, i sent a link to him and copperhead though, in the future if you want to know something from a certain person just click on their avotar and email them
Somebody posted some pricing on this site a bit down
http://www.ministryofpets.com/forum/lofi...
EB
Answers:
Hey ZOZ, just got back in. I can't say I, personally am much impressed with the Violet super reds. To be honest, I think a more realistic name for it should be Malay Blue xback Red is what they more look like. Chilli Red at $700.00 is a good price I think. I'm going to link you some sites I think give an accurate picture of what you can expect to pay. RTG's are popular in Asia for sure, I personally prefer the Blood Reds or Chili's myself, but if you really like it, it sounds like you're paying for a younger Arowana, which is ideal.
By getting a younger Arowana, you can watch them grow and watch thier colors shift and brighten as they age. Difference in prices are basically two major factors. 1. is the grade of the fish, and 2. is the location you buy them from. BC is correct in the point that if you don't have your Arowana microchipped, then you run a risk of someone finding out your Arwoana was taken from the wild, and you could face signifcant legal action because of that. Your safe bet is to get one from one of the farms that grow, raise and microchip them. You pay slightly more, but the confidence level that you are getting a fish that you are paying for is better. There have been reports of RTG's being dyed to simulate a Blood or Super Red, thus the person paying a higher price for a lesser quality fish. If you buy right from a reputable farm, you don't have to worry about this, and you'll get documents certifying the bloodline and microchip of your Arowana.
The way I see it is like this. If you are going to pay this kind of money for a great fish like this, you might as well take the time to buy it from a reputable seller. You protect yourself, and are more likely to get the actual fish you are paying for. If you buy from someone off the streets, you have no guarentee's.
Here's some links to read over. I'm sorry I didn't get back to your email requests sooner, I was away this weekend for some time. Just getting back in now. It's good to know I have your trust and that you know the difference between an accurate answer and an answer that is somewhat questionable and full of bs.
As always you may email me anytime you need, and if you need more extensive help, you can get it at fishless cycling.com or just use the link on my profile.
JV
are they legal? and chipped?
if so. i live spoon heads, for what like 400 usd more i would go with a spoon head.
But also green and black Cross backs are very nice, but if you like the red coloration. go reds.
But those prices make me wonder, i dont think that they are legal from a CITES approved farm.
Edit: well im sorry that imnot jon, but that doesnt mean that hes the only one who knows about arowanas.
Be carful in the future asking questions on here, because you're not allowed to have personell conversations on here, i sent a link to him and copperhead though, in the future if you want to know something from a certain person just click on their avotar and email them
Somebody posted some pricing on this site a bit down
http://www.ministryofpets.com/forum/lofi...
EB
Arowana questions?
how long does an arowana live?
would i be able to put an arowana with a peacock bass?
(arowana and bass 3inches)
should i get 1 arowan and 1 peacock bass?
or..2 arowanas?
already have the tank for them.
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I'd agree with SG here and needs to be said, TANK kept Arowana's expect about 15 years out of them. Wild ones will clearly live much longer.
I believe you asked this about a week ago Chris when you were asking about cichild combinations as well, and you reported to us you already have them togeather. So I don't see how I'd say no. Personally I think it's not a good combination, but if they are not fighting so far that's a good sign. I have three in a 180 gallon tank so far, no fights, but I mix up the diets well, I have ping pong balls floating on the top to keep them looking up, I change the water in the tank twice a week, and make sure the temps stay between 78-80 constant. I find this working very well, no fights or tail nipping and I have 18 Protemelas Stevani's, 4 Mbuna, 4 yellow Labs, assorted cats' 2 red fin blue body botia's in there with them and three nice plecos. NO DEATHS.
In terms of your stocking, this is yet the third article published on the internet I've found, saying if you group them, you should group them in at least five or six to reduce aggression.
http://aquariumlore.blogspot.com/2006/04...
JV
Arowans can live for 25 years plus if you really take care of them and not feed it feeder fish, if you do happen to feed it feeders kill them first so that they float instead of making him have to look downwards causing drop eye.
you will need a massive tank for 2 arowanas maybe in the 250g+
bass also get huge, i would recommend skipping the bass and just getting 1 arowana because if you get 2 one will out compete the other and might kill it.
In captivity it's 15 to about 25 years old, it's possible they live much longer in the wild.
Yes, but the peacock bass should be slightly smaller compared to the arowana when they are introduce to each other.
If you keeping asian arowana I recommend you to keep it alone as you wouldn't want to take the risk of it being attack. But if you are keeping silver or any of the Australian Aro, you can try.
You'll have better result with 1 Aro and 1 Peacock bass compare to 2 Aro (esp. the Asian or Australian).
You should have a tank that is at least 4 feet long if you intend to start with arowana and tankmates.
.
There are several species of arowanas but I'm going to assume you mean the silver arowana from South America.
Under ideal conditions, and this means having a very large aquarium (no less than 150 gallons) you could expect this fish to live for 15 years or more. Remember that arowanas grow very quickly and can attain lengths over 30 inches! Unless you are experienced at keeping tank busters such as this I would not buy one. Another thing to keep in mind is that they can really jump, so keep a very tight fitting lid. Peacock bass is another tank buster that frankly usually does not fair well in the aquarium. Their temperment could probably go with an arowana but I would suggest something less aggressive and easier to keep.
would i be able to put an arowana with a peacock bass?
(arowana and bass 3inches)
should i get 1 arowan and 1 peacock bass?
or..2 arowanas?
already have the tank for them.
Answers:
I'd agree with SG here and needs to be said, TANK kept Arowana's expect about 15 years out of them. Wild ones will clearly live much longer.
I believe you asked this about a week ago Chris when you were asking about cichild combinations as well, and you reported to us you already have them togeather. So I don't see how I'd say no. Personally I think it's not a good combination, but if they are not fighting so far that's a good sign. I have three in a 180 gallon tank so far, no fights, but I mix up the diets well, I have ping pong balls floating on the top to keep them looking up, I change the water in the tank twice a week, and make sure the temps stay between 78-80 constant. I find this working very well, no fights or tail nipping and I have 18 Protemelas Stevani's, 4 Mbuna, 4 yellow Labs, assorted cats' 2 red fin blue body botia's in there with them and three nice plecos. NO DEATHS.
In terms of your stocking, this is yet the third article published on the internet I've found, saying if you group them, you should group them in at least five or six to reduce aggression.
http://aquariumlore.blogspot.com/2006/04...
JV
Arowans can live for 25 years plus if you really take care of them and not feed it feeder fish, if you do happen to feed it feeders kill them first so that they float instead of making him have to look downwards causing drop eye.
you will need a massive tank for 2 arowanas maybe in the 250g+
bass also get huge, i would recommend skipping the bass and just getting 1 arowana because if you get 2 one will out compete the other and might kill it.
In captivity it's 15 to about 25 years old, it's possible they live much longer in the wild.
Yes, but the peacock bass should be slightly smaller compared to the arowana when they are introduce to each other.
If you keeping asian arowana I recommend you to keep it alone as you wouldn't want to take the risk of it being attack. But if you are keeping silver or any of the Australian Aro, you can try.
You'll have better result with 1 Aro and 1 Peacock bass compare to 2 Aro (esp. the Asian or Australian).
You should have a tank that is at least 4 feet long if you intend to start with arowana and tankmates.
.
There are several species of arowanas but I'm going to assume you mean the silver arowana from South America.
Under ideal conditions, and this means having a very large aquarium (no less than 150 gallons) you could expect this fish to live for 15 years or more. Remember that arowanas grow very quickly and can attain lengths over 30 inches! Unless you are experienced at keeping tank busters such as this I would not buy one. Another thing to keep in mind is that they can really jump, so keep a very tight fitting lid. Peacock bass is another tank buster that frankly usually does not fair well in the aquarium. Their temperment could probably go with an arowana but I would suggest something less aggressive and easier to keep.
Arowana or peacock bass?
what gets bigger. a silver arowana or a peacock bass?
and
is it okay to have 2 peacock bass together.
and
is it okay to have 2 arowanas together.
thank you jonv for allllllll of your answers..you have been a great help.
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Silver Arowana by far in the wild. Chris, no problem at all really. But take a look at that wiki link. I believe is says most wild caught peacocks probably around 36-38 inches, I'd have to look again myself. Wild Arowana would reach around 48 inches, however, a Peacock Bass would have much more mass and girth to it, therefore, say you have 1 each of your Arowana and Peacock, even if the Arowana is six inches longer then that peacock, if they go head to head for food, who you think is going to win? lol It's like comparing Manute Bol, if you follow basketball in the past with Shaq, lights out Shaq will kill him.
You have a 250 gallon set up Chris. I'd say that if you are going to pair up Peacocks, don't go much past 2. Silver Arowana though, I'll find the links if you really want, but in groups, they do best in five. Yeah I know, so you say wtf am I doing with just 3? lol I was able to group them all togeather in one shot at first, and there has become one dominant Arow and the other two stay togeather on thier side of the tank lol. If you were to put five in a group, the aggression would get displaced and a clear leader " Alpha Arowana" will emerge out of there. I'd say with 2 only, one of them is going to pester the other, either early, or much later on when they are full adults.
Honestly, I full well expect mine to begin tail nipping and agressiveness when they get to about 18 inches long and if they do, I'll just get a bigger tank lol. I am currently keeping a baby one in isolation right now, and when it gets big enough, he'll join that group.
Either way I do wish you best of luck Chris and come check out fishless cycling.com. Full service staff on hand to answer anything you'd want to know. My input here, go with the Peacocks, if you get Silver, move it up to 5. If you want the links showing the article, I'll get it for you.
JV
The silver arowana gets really long, which makes it bigger? I guess both of it depends on the living conditions (tank, pond, etc.)
Its okay to have two peacock bass living together as long as you have a big tank and plants for it to hide in. As for the arowana, it depends what kind. For the silver arowana, as long as you have three or more living in the tank. For the jardini, leichardti, asian, or any other ones, you can only keep one in the tank.
are u kidding? which gets bigger.
A silver arowana will get well over a meter long and isnt uncommon to see at 50+ inches.
Peacock bass will usually get around 2-3.5 feet. Now peacock bass is a generic name, Their are a few species of peacock bass. Ea has its own characteristics, both in coloration, pattern, and size. Itall depends on where it is naturally grown.
But most will be around the 2-3 foot range. wild caught peacock bass in the amazon will range from 4-4.5 feet. But these are wild.
depending on gallons,
peacock bass can live together, they dont tend to be aggressive towards eachother.
Silver arowanas can be together, but again depends on gallons, establish arowanas may fight and kill newer and smaller arowanas. i have had it happen before.
arrowanas get bigger
and
is it okay to have 2 peacock bass together.
and
is it okay to have 2 arowanas together.
thank you jonv for allllllll of your answers..you have been a great help.
Answers:
Silver Arowana by far in the wild. Chris, no problem at all really. But take a look at that wiki link. I believe is says most wild caught peacocks probably around 36-38 inches, I'd have to look again myself. Wild Arowana would reach around 48 inches, however, a Peacock Bass would have much more mass and girth to it, therefore, say you have 1 each of your Arowana and Peacock, even if the Arowana is six inches longer then that peacock, if they go head to head for food, who you think is going to win? lol It's like comparing Manute Bol, if you follow basketball in the past with Shaq, lights out Shaq will kill him.
You have a 250 gallon set up Chris. I'd say that if you are going to pair up Peacocks, don't go much past 2. Silver Arowana though, I'll find the links if you really want, but in groups, they do best in five. Yeah I know, so you say wtf am I doing with just 3? lol I was able to group them all togeather in one shot at first, and there has become one dominant Arow and the other two stay togeather on thier side of the tank lol. If you were to put five in a group, the aggression would get displaced and a clear leader " Alpha Arowana" will emerge out of there. I'd say with 2 only, one of them is going to pester the other, either early, or much later on when they are full adults.
Honestly, I full well expect mine to begin tail nipping and agressiveness when they get to about 18 inches long and if they do, I'll just get a bigger tank lol. I am currently keeping a baby one in isolation right now, and when it gets big enough, he'll join that group.
Either way I do wish you best of luck Chris and come check out fishless cycling.com. Full service staff on hand to answer anything you'd want to know. My input here, go with the Peacocks, if you get Silver, move it up to 5. If you want the links showing the article, I'll get it for you.
JV
The silver arowana gets really long, which makes it bigger? I guess both of it depends on the living conditions (tank, pond, etc.)
Its okay to have two peacock bass living together as long as you have a big tank and plants for it to hide in. As for the arowana, it depends what kind. For the silver arowana, as long as you have three or more living in the tank. For the jardini, leichardti, asian, or any other ones, you can only keep one in the tank.
are u kidding? which gets bigger.
A silver arowana will get well over a meter long and isnt uncommon to see at 50+ inches.
Peacock bass will usually get around 2-3.5 feet. Now peacock bass is a generic name, Their are a few species of peacock bass. Ea has its own characteristics, both in coloration, pattern, and size. Itall depends on where it is naturally grown.
But most will be around the 2-3 foot range. wild caught peacock bass in the amazon will range from 4-4.5 feet. But these are wild.
depending on gallons,
peacock bass can live together, they dont tend to be aggressive towards eachother.
Silver arowanas can be together, but again depends on gallons, establish arowanas may fight and kill newer and smaller arowanas. i have had it happen before.
arrowanas get bigger
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